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post #151 of 191 (permalink) Old 10-09-2018, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
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Just drove the 50 mile round trip in driving rain to look at the BMW and the V4S. They had one V4 Base come in but it was sold as soon as it hit the showroom floor.

They had two of the BMWs in the Motorrad colors and two of the V4S on the showroom.

In person you fall in love with the Panigale, just like I did with my 959, love at first sight so definitely a right brain thing.


The BMW.....and I looked at the exact same Motorrad colors (white/blue/red), is very nice but all left brain, somehow feels and looks very ordinary when you sit on it.

To me, it doesn't evoke any emotion, kind of like most Hondas, they are simple appliances, very nice and fast appliances mind you.....but still appliances.

The V4S shouts "Fortissimo" and stirs the soul like a steamy bruschetta washed down with a fine Tuscan Chianti. OK, I digress but you get the picture, the BMW is $12,000 less and I bet I could turn a faster lap on it but the V4S calls to me like a seductive and sultry Viennese temptress and sweetly murmurs...."buy me, you will never regret it, I promise...."


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so did you buy it?
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Lol.... not yet but sorely tempted for sure.

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Had the chance to take a V4 for a short ride while stopping by the dealer today to schedule my winter service/storage for the 959.

Having sat on it several times in the showroom in the past, I didn’t think it would be comfortable to ride. Boy was I wrong. I felt more at home on it with my short ride than on my 959. The motor is tolerable “smooth” at lower RPM but still has some twin character (rode my S1000r there, some that defines my smooth).

They were prepping a V4S during my visit and I got poke around it on the stand. Gotta say I’m glad I left my checkbook at home.
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Had the chance to take a V4 for a short ride while stopping by the dealer today to schedule my winter service/storage for the 959.

Having sat on it several times in the showroom in the past, I didn’t think it would be comfortable to ride. Boy was I wrong. I felt more at home on it with my short ride than on my 959. The motor is tolerable “smooth” at lower RPM but still has some twin character (rode my S1000r there, some that defines my smooth).

They were prepping a V4S during my visit and I got poke around it on the stand. Gotta say I’m glad I left my checkbook at home.
Those were my thoughts also, I am 6'3" and the bike felt very comfortable to me. Did not get a chance to ride as it was pouring down rain all day yesterday but my understanding also is that it is very smooth but with a small amount of V-twin character down low switching to a V-4ish howl above about 10,000 rpm. Looking at the HP and torque curves, it literally towers over the S1000RR, especially in the upper midrange and top end and at no point was it below the S1000 curve but how this will translate into "go" remains to be seen as gearing can weigh in. I did not bring my checkbook either, good thing that as it is a very tempting proposition. My next question would be will they deal on the V4S? I'm not expecting a lot but did get my 959 back in '16 for just over the MSRP as a drive away price, so they waived the destination and setup charges and a good portion of the state sales tax to make that happen.

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You may be surprised... I get the impression the V4s may not be selling as well as anticipated.

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Hi Doug, yea I noticed they've had a couple of S models hanging around my dealer's showroom while the Base model just flew out of there. I'm guessing it's a price thing, quick back of the napkin math puts this at over $30,000 drive away, Base model is a much easier proposition to swallow for some. Most of the guys I see on these appear to be well heeled but not particularly fast; but then again who wants to throw a $30K bike down the road? There are several bikes that compare favorably on performance to the V-4S for way less cash, R1M, BMW S1000RR and Aprilia RSV4 Factory come to mind, at the end of the day you are buying exclusivity with the V-4S. It all depends on how bad you want one. Even the new GSXR 1000R has been acquitting itself well in the Euro shootouts lately and beating out all the above on occasion depending on the track. The bike is really good but still it's a Suzuki and does not score well down at the local pub.


I was going to drive over to the dealer today and talk out the door pricing on a V-4S but decided at the last moment to wait. I'm afraid I am going to be tempted pull out the check book and dive into the deep end of the pool....lol!

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@Kruz , Yes, indeed! I would assume the majority of the "S" models will be sold to the "coffee shop" crowd. Those napkin figures must not include any aftermarket parts, such as the $5k exhaust system! lol! For me it's not so much about the comparative specs, or the bike magazine performance tests. Ducati is the only brand of street bike I've ever owned, and I'm probably not going to be switching up anytime soon. They're a different breed of motorcycle, and not always a good fit for everyone. I'll be curious to see what 2019 brings.

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Yes, if I buy a V-4S it will definitely retain the stock exhaust system as has my 959, very nice growl stock and I don't need any more power with either machine. This is assuming the V-4 sounds as good stock as the 959.


My biggest issue with buying the V-4S is what will Ducati come out with next year? I feel really bad for all those guys that bought the V2 SuperLegera only to have it relegated by the new V-4. Ducati is notorious for doing this, think of the Desmoccedici, really exclusive but already obsoleted by the arrival of the V-4.


Fortunately, the 959 is probably going to be around for some time to come with only the Corse model and possibly other tasty special edition models.
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Agreed!! Although, I'd still take a Superlegera in a sec!! lol!

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