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What are you guys running for settings? Trying to get my bike dialed in.
EBC
DTC
ABS
EBC
DTC
ABS
That's very personal and will change over time.What are you guys running for settings?
EBC
DTC
ABS
For the most part, I've experienced the same thing. Clutch ups definitely impossible with TC on, but I've power wheelied it on TC4 in first at 7k however, so probably depends on a bunch of factors. I've found that DTC kicks in very quickly and bogs the engine while accelerating over bumps, but is tame/consistent when flat.So I have been leaving Sport at Default, except I bump up the engine power to High. For race I have EBC1, ABS1 and traction control turned off. I do that because unlike the Monster 1200S, the Panigale doesn't seem to want to let the front end come up and wheelie, at all, unless DTC is disabled. I am not out riding stand up wheelies on the street, but I don't mind the front coming up a few inches under hard acceleration, and DTC is always shutting the party down if left on in race mode. I also noticed in the default Race settings that the T/C kicks in sometimes quickshifting from first to second and second to third at WOT... It makes it feel like it is "bogging down", I guess during the shifting the rear tire slips a little and it cuts power...
Is this normal?
Yeah, that makes sense. So the question is, which method is "faster"?For the most part, I've experienced the same thing. Clutch ups definitely impossible with TC on, but I've power wheelied it on TC4 in first at 7k however, so probably depends on a bunch of factors. I've found that DTC kicks in very quickly and bogs the engine while accelerating over bumps, but is tame/consistent when flat.
TC activating on shifts is normal for me between 1 and 2, but never on other shifts unless there's poor road conditions.
I'm certain Ducati didn't plan the TC settings for wheelies or for individual styles of riding on the 959. The bike will never improve for you if you don't experiment.So I am torn between trusting that the "Factory knows best", and what "I think the bike should do"... haha
This is one of the few things that I have OCD on. In my mind, I have to "know that it's right" and no matter what setting I use, I second guess myself. For whatever reason, the M1200S default sport mode, let it wheelie a bit here and there, and more importantly, didn't cut the power under hard acceleration in a straight line, while giving my mind the peace of mind(perhaps only in perception) of still having a bit of a safety net in place. I kinda set it and forget it...I'm certain Ducati didn't plan the TC settings for wheelies or for individual styles of riding on the 959. The bike will never improve for you if you don't experiment.
Consequently, I believe you should set-it-up the way you like it. You can always change it back.
Whatever makes you feel better and in control is ultimately "faster". That's mostly a personal preference question right? I'd lean toward what we'd want vs. what the factory defines.Yeah, that makes sense. So the question is, which method is "faster"?
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So I am torn between trusting that the "Factory knows best", and what "I think the bike should do"... haha
I'm lost. In your previous post, you're stating that you lack hard straight line drive due to TC intervening, but here you're saying you can power wheelie in first and second? I'm assuming you're making an apples to apples comparison here in that both cases are under DTC2 (default RACE mode DTC setting), so quite confusing.Certainly if you in a turn and the pavement is less than ideal, then you want the TC keeping you in line... But on straightaways where you want maximum thrust, it seems intrusive. My 959 easily power wheelies in first(45t rear sprocket) and it sometimes pops up a little in second... But this is not a true literbike that will flick you off if you aren't careful, like my Monster 1200S or 1198 was. It's like a slightly beefed up 750, so the danger of looping it... pretty low. You would almost have to TRY and mess up that bad. LOL
I meant it power wheelies a little bit with DTC off. With it on(default settings), the front tire is glued to the road and as a result, it often bogs a bit as power is cut when I don't feel it needs to... So the "solution" is to just turn it off. But then part of me says, "don't I want some electronic protection? Isn't that what it's here for?" LOLWhatever makes you feel better and in control is ultimately "faster". That's mostly a personal preference question right? I'd lean toward what we'd want vs. what the factory defines.
I'm lost. In your previous post, you're stating that you lack hard straight line drive due to TC intervening, but here you're saying you can power wheelie in first and second? I'm assuming you're making an apples to apples comparison here in that both cases are under DTC2 (default RACE mode DTC setting), so quite confusing.
Right now I am riding in Race mode with EBC-1, DTC-2, ABS-2 and it seems pretty good. If I want to wheelie I can just turn off the DTC. I feel like this gives me a decent safety net while not being too intrusive...I'm certain Ducati didn't plan the TC settings for wheelies or for individual styles of riding on the 959. The bike will never improve for you if you don't experiment.
Consequently, I believe you should set-it-up the way you like it. You can always change it back.
It doesn't have wheelie mode, correct, but many times if you whack the throttle in first, the TC cuts in when the front wheel comes up, bringing it back down. It's a by-product of Traction Control more than wheelie control, but it kinda does the same thing, in many cases...Street
High Power Mode
EBC: 2
DTC: 3
ABS: 3
Track
High Power Mode
EBC: 3
DTC: 1
ABS: Off
As Kev said this thing doesn't have any Anti-Wheelie control. I was over at Pitt Race last weekend and was wheeling over the hill coming out of Turn 1 on every lap.