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Would prefer to have a shorty clutch lever, however, w/ the stock slave, the pull, I presume, would be too heavy for my liking. Anyone using a shorty w/ the stock slave? What's your experience? On the other hand, did anyone get an aftermarket slave just because they wanted increased clutch travel/range? I feel like the engagement friction zone is pretty minimal, for better or worse. I'm just wondering who's got an aftermarket slave on their 959 and for what reasons? And if anyone is using a shorty lever w/ the stock slave or with an aftermarket slave and which particular one? Thanks, Chris
 

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A short while back, I commented that the Panigale has a stiff clutch lever and one should rethink buying a shorty lever without looking into replacing the clutch slave... several forum members shot that right down and said that the 959 was lighter than most bikes they had recently ridden.

I seem to think that it might be because I have an 899 with an aftermarket slipper clutch and the 959 comes stock with a slipper function clutch, perhaps APTC / Adige, which requires far less pull.

Either way, many 899 owners went the route of an Oberon, Ducabike, or CNC slave.

However, I decided to go with the CRG carbon fiber regular length clutch which is very short compared to stock and a shorty brake which only requires two fingers. The combination has actually worked out quite well and I now see that several vendors offer kits with this combination for this reason.
 

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I went to the shorty ASV levers after I got my bike. With the stock slave, I had one short ride set up that way and it was a lot of pull. With the ASV's, it was a combination of both the short lever and the actual lever design and how my fingers reached it. There may be other levers that I would have tolerated more but I am partial to the ASV's. I ordered up a long lever for the clutch side and it is totally tolerable now. That being said, changing the slave and going back to the left shorty is still one thing I'd like to try, even if I stay with the long lever on that side.

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I have stock levers on my 959 and the pull is quite light, IMO. I had shorties on my 848 with the stock slave and did not notice any change in the resistance. So I would imagine you would be ok with just adding the short levers, bit that is a personal preference. Hope that helps.
 

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I put the TWM shortys on only 1" shorter than stock. No immediate obvious change.
The clutch pull unfortunately hits your ring finger if you use two fingers which I was a bit bummed about.
Also a 5gram saving per lever for any dieters out there.
 

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I have short Pazzo's and the pull is pinky easy on both the 959 and M1200R. The shifting precision is much improved especially on the latter.
I would never go back to long levers.
 
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I ended up getting the CRG CF 'regular' length lever. Glad I did. Fits so much better in my fingers than the stock lever. The 'shorty' would've taken too much effort for me on my 959... I wonder, maybe the pull is easier on some 959's than others? I mean, one guy is saying that his pinky can pull in the clutch? I can't do that on my mine. I mean, I could, but it'd feel horrible. I wonder if my pinky could pull the clutch in easily/effortlessly on his bike? Or, whether, he just has a strong pinky? Or, whether, he's just not as sensitive (as I would be) to how much effort it's really taking?
 

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I bet it has more to do with the hand strength of the person riding. I know some guys that can break the bones in your hand with a squeeze if they wanted to.
 

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I put the TWM shortys on only 1" shorter than stock. No immediate obvious change.
The clutch pull unfortunately hits your ring finger if you use two fingers which I was a bit bummed about.
Also a 5gram saving per lever for any dieters out there.
Have you tried the adjusters on the lever to get the span to be shorter?
 

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I put shorties on my 848 and changed the slave. (GREAT mod because I love those short PAZZO'S!) For those that know more than I do, because my 959 has 580 miles so far. Aren't the BREMBO levers super special? Something about them (Besides the logo.) that the dealer was telling me about. I can not remember what it was.
 

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The stock levers, although high quality, are nothing extremely special as far I'm aware. Perhaps your dealer was taking about the whole package - Brembo master cylinder & lever? But again, the OE master / lever combo is not Brembo's top level, but they are definitely of high quality.
 

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The stock levers, although high quality, are nothing extremely special as far I'm aware. Perhaps your dealer was taking about the whole package - Brembo master cylinder & lever? But again, the OE master / lever combo is not Brembo's top level, but they are definitely of high quality.
I am not sure and the salesman was speaking of the BREMBO levers on a Triumph Daytona 675R. I am not sure if the 959 levers are the same. I will go back and find out. I just ordered powder coated red PAZZO shorty's because I love the look and feel. As mentioned, I had them on my 848, but with that bike, I changed the slave. I don't feel like spending money on a slave for my 959 so I hope that the shorty's feel good with the stock slave.

My first round of small mods (Passenger seat cowl, EVOTECH radiator cover, new Diamond Vision bulbs and levers.) seem to be taking forever to get here and I have to wait.
 

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one guy is saying that his pinky can pull in the clutch? I can't do that on my mine. I mean, I could, but it'd feel horrible. I wonder if my pinky could pull the clutch in easily/effortlessly on his bike? Or, whether, he just has a strong pinky? Or, whether, he's just not as sensitive (as I would be) to how much effort it's really taking?
"Pinky Easy" was just an expression to make the point, not to be taken literally.:wink2:
 

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On the other hand, no pun intended, I lift weights regularly and do moderate weight dead lifts with just gloves and no wraps, so I would like to think that I have a decent amount of grip strength.

I don't find the clutch pull a huge chore, however I have been caught in rush hour with no room to safely split lanes (despite the fact that it isn't legal in Texas) and found myself in bumper to bumper traffic taking roughly an hour to travel only several miles. It was enough for me to decide against a two finger shorty lever no matter how easy or difficult the pull feels. Living in Dallas and having to cross the city to go from door to twisty roads and back, there is no guarantee you can avoid any congestion no matter what day or time you decide to ride. There have been several occasions when the freeway has been shut down the over the weekend to do repairs with little or no notice and running up against that is no fun.


Thus, my reason for the clutch pull comments and suggestions regarding an aftermarket clutch slave if going with anything less than a full size or standard lever.
 

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@sinjin,
Notwithstanding any metaphors, (otherwise motowheels would have a difficult challenge selling his Dainese "Full Metal" D1 gloves), I believe the clutch pull is easier on a 959 than an 899. Both my bikes have hydraulic clutches and I can seriously "two finger" clutch all day ( including being caught in traffic)...no problem and I'm no superman. Maybe there's a transition period. When I purchased my first manual transmission car, my right hand fingers were sore for the first couple of weeks but were fine thereafter.
 

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I just bought some eBay shorty levers for $20USD. No joke, they are indistinguishable from Pazzo's, fit and form is perfect. Try it out for dirt cheap, they've certainly surprised me in terms of quality.


Pull is the same as before. Two-fingering the levers are more fitting, like some others have said, you can definitely 4 finger it no problem. It's a little weird now though having the extra room to pull in (due to full length lever not hitting fingers). Just takes a little to get used to again on clutch side.
 
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