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Well, I went to my dealer today to pickup some of the Ducati recommended Shell 15W50 Synthetic oil and found out they don't stock it, can't get it here in the U.S apparently. They brought out some 5W40 BMW labeled Synthetic oil but I declined. They say all the Panigales they service get this oil.
So I'm in a bit of a quandary here, they want $382 for the first service which means they'll shutoff the service engine light as part of the deal and I get the Beemer oil. I prefer to change my own oil, about $70 for filter, oil and seals and then I know exactly what I have but then there's the issue of turning off that pesky service warning lamp. I'm still on the fence on this one.
 

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If my dealer is going to service with 5W40 synthetic, I'm tempted to use Rotella T6 5W40 full synthetic. I run it in everything I own and it's good stuff and very reasonably priced. I always change at 2000-2500 mile as the wet clutch and tranny really beat up your oil. Oil filter, two o-rings and crush seal for the drain plug are $50 on line. It might be best to let the dealer do the first one since you'll have a service record in case a warranty issue ever comes up. After that it's a no brainer.
 

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I am in a bit of a conundrum here. I am at 550 miles, I want to ride tomorrow, but I wont get to dealership until at least tuesday and thats 75 miles away. Will it be ok to go over a bit?
 

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Yea, you'll be fine, I'm going to run a little over myself.
 

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I'll hit the 600 miles in 2 rides. lol! I will be doing all my own oil changes as I do on all my bikes. I'd go broke otherwise. K&N make a replacement oil filter for the Pani's for around $15. I've been using them in the 1199 since 2012. The 959's use the same filter.
 

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I just bought motul 300v 15/50 off Amazon prime and a kn filter for $70 shipped two day.

I'm doing all my own maintenance as well. My nearby dealer is reputably horrendous. I'll take it to another state for recalls or major work.
 

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I think I found a local shop that I'm going to have maintain my bike - and it's not a dealer, however he was a mechanic for a dealer. I still have to stop by there and see how reasonable he is, but I'm optimistic! If anyone is in the Irvine area of Southern CA and wants the info, send me a PM - you might even have an opinion already!
 

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I ordered the filter, O-rings and crush seal for the magnetic drain plug on line at Motospecialties, $53.17 with shipping. 1 Gallon of Rotella T6 5W40 synthetic is another $25 with sales tax at Wally World, so $78 total for the first oil change.


I thought about this long and hard and just can't let anyone else touch my bike, especially for $382. Will deal with the service light later, it came on yesterday and just shows Service 1 and the word "Oil" on startup, then goes out when you pull away, so no big deal. I just didn't want to see a big yellow warning icon flashing at me all the time when I was riding....lol. I'll grease some local Ducati mechanics palm with a few bucks to get the service message turned off.
 

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How many quarts (liters) of oil did it take you guys to bring it up to the full mark when you changed? Also, what torque did you use on the magnetic drain bolt and oil cover bolts? No specs in the owners manual, just says to take it to your local Ducati dealer and pay $382...lol!
 

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There has got to be a way or tool that can turn off the light, once tuners start playing with this model I am sure there will be. I am researching using the dda cable like the older bike guys used with and obdii device and using software to turn off.

I also was able to find a filter, and the rec 15 50w shell oil not to bad from local shop. if light goes away after riding that's great.
 

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How many quarts (liters) of oil did it take you guys to bring it up to the full mark when you changed? Also, what torque did you use on the magnetic drain bolt and oil cover bolts? No specs in the owners manual, just says to take it to your local Ducati dealer and pay $382...lol!
I over filled. It only took about 3.75L. When I drained my oil I actual turned the engine over to scavenge the pump and another 5 ounces or so came out. I let it drain overnight even.

It's right in the 899 workshop manual I posted a link to...
12-14nm I believe. I just did this the other day. That said, it's a drain plug; if it's leaking, tighter. It it's not leaking, tight enough. Mine had an aluminum crush washer, I reused it and I reused the orings on the filter access cover. I mic'd the rings and they had plenty of sealing life.

I refused to pay those prices for service. On top of that, the only dealer within 2.75 hours of me is reputably the worst in NY and PA both in ethics and competence. I did my oil with motul and I checked most of the torque specs it called out.
 

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I over filled. It only took about 3.75L. When I drained my oil I actual turned the engine over to scavenge the pump and another 5 ounces or so came out. I let it drain overnight even.

It's right in the 899 workshop manual I posted a link to...
12-14nm I believe. I just did this the other day. That said, it's a drain plug; if it's leaking, tighter. It it's not leaking, tight enough. Mine had an aluminum crush washer, I reused it and I reused the orings on the filter access cover. I mic'd the rings and they had plenty of sealing life.

I refused to pay those prices for service. On top of that, the only dealer within 2.75 hours of me is reputably the worst in NY and PA both in ethics and competence. I did my oil with motul and I checked most of the torque specs it called out.

Yep, I think a lot of 959 owners are going to opt out of the dealer option, way too much for a simple oil change and once over.


What weight Motul did you use? 3.75 L should bring it right up to the full mark on the sight glass?


Drain bolt is 12-14 N-M? Cover screws are probably just snug.


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Had my first service today, charged 2 hours labor @ 97 an hour plus supplies. They took fairings off, bled my brakes, changed my brake fluid, cleaned and lubed my chain, cleaned my bike of chain lube from factory lube, checked tires, all bolts and nuts, and of course changed the oil with the Shell the factory calls for. They showed me how to do it and he said he reccomends every 3500 to 4000 at most, and that the factory 7500 is too much.
I was pretty satisfied, 200 bucks for all that is not bad, it was nice to see that much attention to detail and professionalism.
This was done at Ducati of Winchester, in VA. Cannot recommend them enough, Donnie the owner is top notch guy.
 

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Had my first service today, charged 2 hours labor @ 97 an hour plus supplies. They took fairings off, bled my brakes, changed my brake fluid, cleaned and lubed my chain, cleaned my bike of chain lube from factory lube, checked tires, all bolts and nuts, and of course changed the oil with the Shell the factory calls for. They showed me how to do it and he said he reccomends every 3500 to 4000 at most, and that the factory 7500 is too much.
I was pretty satisfied, 200 bucks for all that is not bad, it was nice to see that much attention to detail and professionalism.
This was done at Ducati of Winchester, in VA. Cannot recommend them enough, Donnie the owner is top notch guy.
I'm impressed, that is a lot of work for $200, you got a bargain.
 

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Agreed. The fact that they show you everything to is pretty big in my book.

While I was in Alabama for work, I brought my bike and called 4 dealerships in the area. All of them wanted $340-$360 plus tax for the 600mi service. My local dealership in Buffalo NY would connect me to the service department where it would ring for three minutes before the secretary got it and asked me where I was supposed to be. Every time she would say she could see the guys and didn't know why they weren't picking up. After three days of that I gave into all the negative reviews online...

Kruz,

I used 15/50. Yes, 3.75L should bring it up to the full mark. And yes, 12-14nm.

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@Renzo520 @Kruz - H&ck yeah he got a bargain!!! The mechanic I'm going to be bringing my bike to is going to charge me $280 +/- for the first service. I stopped by there yesterday - excellent shop and guys - and they are the only shop with a Dyno! I can't wait to get things going!!!
 

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Planning on doing this first service this weekend if my parts arrive on time.


I was checking out the 1299/11199 Panigale forum and some of the guys were saying removing the oil filter cover can be a real PITA. They were suggesting to go very slowly around the cover and gently pry it off with a #2 screwdriver. Someone else suggested that the cover holes are actually threaded with 7mm threads and you can then screw in two 7mm bolts and use this to pull the cover.


So far, I've found Motorex and Motul 300V oils in my local area in a 15W50 synthetic.
 
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