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A full Akra system will cost you about Can$5000 that will yield approximately an additional 10HP.
However, this kind of extra cash would buy you a 1299 with 40 more HP. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
 

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Published prices for both the full Akra Evo system and the Akra Slip-On per the screenshots grabbed from the following Ducati official websites; Canada, US, UK and Euro (Italia).
 

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A full Akra system will cost you about Can$5000 that will yield approximately an additional 10HP.
However, this kind of extra cash would buy you a 1299 with 40 more HP. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Yes very true but then you wouldn't have a bad*ss "Middle Weight" weapon... AKA Sleepergale!



Why a performance exhaust is so sweet on a Ducati:


  1. That "SOUND"!
  2. Allows the bike to breath unrestricted (stock exhaust are very restricted and it effects the power range in all RPM's.
  3. Huge weight reductions



Cheers!
 

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When I bought my Monster I ordered a full Termi system. I want to say it was around 3 grand but it transformed the bike. It dramatically improved low rpm fueling and got rid of that terrible stock system. For the Pani, I think paying 33% of the purchase price for that system is a bit overkill. The bike is plenty loud to me in stock trim, surprisingly so. At this point, I won't be getting the Akro system. It's just way over priced I think. Who knows. I won't be tracking this bike to I think most of my mods will be cosmetic.

So far I'm impressed with the stock fueling on this bike. The 1098 was also pretty hideous stock and at low RPM. The 959 has no such issues that I can tell thus far. If I was able to negotiate a solid price not he Akro, maybe but I'm really leaning against it at the moment.
 

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When I bought my Monster I ordered a full Termi system. I want to say it was around 3 grand but it transformed the bike. It dramatically improved low rpm fueling and got rid of that terrible stock system. For the Pani, I think paying 33% of the purchase price for that system is a bit overkill. The bike is plenty loud to me in stock trim, surprisingly so. At this point, I won't be getting the Akro system. It's just way over priced I think. Who knows. I won't be tracking this bike to I think most of my mods will be cosmetic.

So far I'm impressed with the stock fueling on this bike. The 1098 was also pretty hideous stock and at low RPM. The 959 has no such issues that I can tell thus far. If I was able to negotiate a solid price not he Akro, maybe but I'm really leaning against it at the moment.

I do agree with you 100% the stock fueling is amaziing on this bike. One of the best out of the box for sure. And the stock exhaust does sound good.
 

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Yes very true but then you wouldn't have a bad*ss "Middle Weight" weapon... AKA Sleepergale!



Why a performance exhaust is so sweet on a Ducati:


  1. That "SOUND"!
  2. Allows the bike to breath unrestricted (stock exhaust are very restricted and it effects the power range in all RPM's.
  3. Huge weight reductions



Cheers!
Way to get us all jealous Rucks. :grin2:

Did the full akro come with it's own ECU for that hefty price or will you be flashing the ECU?
 

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Has anyone heard of any other brands coming into the mix or does Akrapovic have the deal locked up with ducati on this bike? $3500 for slip-ons is a bit crazy! I paid less than that for my full Ti system on my 1199.
 

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Way to get us all jealous Rucks. :grin2:

Did the full akro come with it's own ECU for that hefty price or will you be flashing the ECU?

The Panigale's don't need all new ECU's like the older Ducati's. The ECU are now flasable with a "Up Map" key. When you buy the offical Ducati Performance Akrapovic Exhaust it comes with the proper "Up Map" key that reflashes the stock ECU. This has to be done by a Ducati Dealer using the DDS service system.
 

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Has anyone heard of any other brands coming into the mix or does Akrapovic have the deal locked up with ducati on this bike? $3500 for slip-ons is a bit crazy! I paid less than that for my full Ti system on my 1199.

Great question! Currently Ducati partners with Akrapovic and is the only exhaust the is sold at authorized Ducati dealers as part of the "Ducati Performance" line for the Panigale, therefore the only exhaust that comes with the "Up Map" key for ECU reflash.
 

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from other forums I read Tuneboy can give another few hp with Akra so in theory 959+Akra+Tuneboy can be around 175hp bike... that's about the same as Honda Fireblade
 

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Great question! Currently Ducati partners with Akrapovic and is the only exhaust the is sold at authorized Ducati dealers as part of the "Ducati Performance" line for the Panigale, therefore the only exhaust that comes with the "Up Map" key for ECU reflash.
Yes, that was my understanding as well. I was told by my dealer that in essence the exhaust system on the 1299 & 959 are basically the same. The issue is Akropovic are the only ones with the map for the 959 motor at this time.
 

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The Panigale's don't need all new ECU's like the older Ducati's. The ECU are now flasable with a "Up Map" key. When you buy the offical Ducati Performance Akrapovic Exhaust it comes with the proper "Up Map" key that reflashes the stock ECU. This has to be done by a Ducati Dealer using the DDS service system.
Thanks for clearing that up rucks22. I feel ancient now with the 1098, need to get with times as you can see.

This makes it's so much easier!
 

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Thanks for clearing that up rucks22. I feel ancient now with the 1098, need to get with times as you can see.

This makes it's so much easier!
1098 is such a great bike though man. That thing is pure. It makes torque everywhere that the 959 could never dream about. I love the 1098. The 959 however is a much easier bike to live with for daily riding duty imo.
 

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cost is relative and about the same. An example I recently installed the Aprilia Factory Akra full exhaust on my RSV4 RF and that ran $3500, full TI system with an ECU unlock code from Aprilia. When I did the upgrade to my 1198 SP I went with termi's and that was $3200... so at the end of the it takes $$$$$$$$ to play... Now I have seen some full Akras for the 959 at $5k which is ridicules and they can keep it.. I would not spend 1/3 of the purchase price of a bike on exhaust...
 

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Akra/Ducati may have to revise their pricing as there's just no value proposition here to justify the high cost/benefit ratio in commanding a price equivalent to 25% of the purchase price of the whole bike. Alternatively, they may find an broad audience for this product where price is irrelevant. Time will tell.
 

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The forward facing termis are an option too if you don't mind skipping your warranty. Have heard great reviews, but not sure on the look. Slip ons are "only" 2000.
 

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Akra/Ducati may have to revise their pricing as there's just no value proposition here to justify the high cost/benefit ratio in commanding a price equivalent to 25% of the purchase price of the whole bike. Alternatively, they may find an broad audience for this product where price is irrelevant. Time will tell.
Indeed! I'm waiting them out...
 

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Indeed! I'm waiting them out...
Me to. I have the money. I'm just not willing to spend that much. It's absurd. If the system was $2500-3000, I'd have it on the bike already. $5k plus install is simply not worth it. I figured that would be nearly $6k otd. I'd rather put the 6K down on another bike.
 
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