is 959 more about electronics?

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BBBingo

Discussion Starter · Oct 19, 2015

Do you guys think the 959 upgrade is more about electronics then out and out mechanical improvements?

when the 1299 showed up alot of people were convinced it was useless vs the oh so similar 1199... but Ducati put work into the electronics suite which is where the desirability comes from IMO...

You guys think the 959 will gain the same electronics boost over 899?

Ducati 899 Panigale gets a boost for 2016 | MCN

Many 1199 Panigale riders baulked at the idea of trading up to a 1299 Panigale, claiming that the 1199 was more than enough – but Ducati have thoroughly cracked the ‘control’ nut, making the 1299 the fastest and easiest Ducati superbike of all time. The chances of them not repeating the feat with the new 959 seem very slim indeed.

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Mr D

· #2 · Oct 20, 2015

I think maybe cornering ABS will creep in for marketing safety, but for performance they will probably still want some differentiation between the 1299 and 959, and not just limit it to mechanicals. So maybe when the all-new baby Panigale is released in a few years they'll add wheelie control, because by then they will have come up with some new electronic trickery for the 1299 successor. Of course I hope I'm wrong and they throw all the electronic goodies at the 959!

More important to me would be a slipper clutch and up/down quick shifter. LED headlamps would be great too for night riding, but that would significantly eat in to their margins so unless they up the price I think it's unlikely (same goes for colour TFT).

BBBingo

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 20, 2015

Mr D said:
I think maybe cornering ABS will creep in for marketing safety, but for performance they will probably still want some differentiation between the 1299 and 959, and not just limit it to mechanicals. So maybe when the all-new baby Panigale is released in a few years they'll add wheelie control, because by then they will have come up with some new electronic trickery for the 1299 successor. Of course I hope I'm wrong and they throw all the electronic goodies at the 959!

More important to me would be a slipper clutch and up/down quick shifter. LED headlamps would be great too for night riding, but that would significantly eat in to their margins so unless they up the price I think it's unlikely (same goes for colour TFT).

I heard it could be getting a slipper! ABS will be there for sure to satisfy europes new regs, cornering ABS is almost mandatory, Yamaha has it, BMW has it Kawasaki has it...

What would be SWEEETTTTT is adaptive suspension... but THAT's out of the question...

Welcome to the boards BTW!

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corsa

· #4 · Oct 20, 2015

As electric bikes come to market they might even look into combining adaptive suspension with regenerative tech, that's something i'd like to see.

Mr D

· #5 · Oct 20, 2015

Thanks BBBingo. Looking forward to seeing this forum become a wealth of knowledge and interactions.

corsa

· #6 · Oct 31, 2015

Mr D said:
Thanks BBBingo. Looking forward to seeing this forum become a wealth of knowledge and interactions.

already it seems to be picking up some good pace, have yet to see another resource dedicated to the 899 that's a good as this is!

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SpeedyGonzales

· #7 · Nov 2, 2015

I'm sure it won't be just about the electronics but any updates will be a plus.

moto

· #8 · Nov 3, 2015

Hard to say without knowing more about the 959. All we know for now is that there's an 57cc.

BBBingo

Discussion Starter · #9 · Nov 3, 2015

moto said:
Hard to say without knowing more about the 959. All we know for now is that there's an 57cc.

57cc what? LOL

electronics is the new war... who can pack the most wizard gizmos into their bike...

VroomVroom

· #10 · Nov 4, 2015

Lol. I think he meant the 57cc boost.

moto

· #11 · Nov 6, 2015

Yup^
Also, we don't really know what sort of new gadgetry Ducati will install onto the 959 so we can't exactly say that it's more about the tech.

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SpeedyGonzales

· #12 · Nov 10, 2015

It's also about the new engine design we had at peek at. Massive torque gains unless this falls under the category of electronics?

corsa

· #13 · Nov 10, 2015

Any insight or guesses as to what this new stuff could be and exactly how it could impact the bikes performance?

SpeedyGonzales

· #14 · Nov 11, 2015

Heard from the Ducati 899 & 959 Panigale Facebook page, the ABS system is supposed to be similar to the 1299 so maybe the 959 will be getting the Bosch 9.1 MP ABS as standard for shorter braking distance and better stability.

BBBingo

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 11, 2015

SpeedyGonzales said:
It's also about the new engine design we had at peek at. Massive torque gains unless this falls under the category of electronics?

but the new engine isn't a new engine. Its a smash up of 899 and 1299 bore x stroke. Most of the components, if not all, are recycled

BBBingo

Discussion Starter · #16 · Nov 11, 2015

SpeedyGonzales said:
Heard from the Ducati 899 & 959 Panigale Facebook page, the ABS system is supposed to be similar to the 1299 so maybe the 959 will be getting the Bosch 9.1 MP ABS as standard for shorter braking distance and better stability.

not so much about stopping distances, ABS won't stop you any quicker in regular conditions, they will prevent you from locking up in bad conditions or over loose surfaces/broken tarmac...

Best parts about the Bosch system Ducati uses are that it links front and rear brakes and it allows you to brake while leaned over...

moto

· #17 · Nov 13, 2015

So you don't go flying over the handlebars and lift the rear of the bike when you brake too bard.

corsa

· #18 · Nov 13, 2015

moto said:
So you don't go flying over the handlebars and lift the rear of the bike when you brake too bard.

That's most important in the city, seen way too many close calls with horrible drivers, even worse when it comes to rush hour!

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