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I am a Ducati convert. I have a 2013 SF 848 I have been using on the track for its last two yrs. I bought this from my friend in 16’ and have been a part of every single one of its 3,718mi life. I’m working on getting a 959. I need some education in this bike as I’m buying used and need to make sure everything is in good enough shape and ready for the track with minor mods to start. First weekend is in a few weeks so biggest concerns are well there’s no frame so if the bikes been down or wrecked how do I ensure it’s good, etc. Any issues or quarks I need to know about, maintenance?I want to hear what experience has to say. thanks in advanced everyone I super excited to join and contribute here!
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I’d take the initiative to change the water pump gears. The plastic can suffer a catastrophic disintegration and the plastic bits will travel through your oil system. Tad inconvenient and very costly to repair.

Other than that, not a lot of prep required to get around the track. If you spring for track fairings, you’ll want the front fairing stay, the subframe and will probably have to replace your windscreen. I went with SharkSkinz, TighTails and ZeroGravity. None of the above is hard to fit.

OEM rear sets are functional.

OEM clip ons are functional.

OEM or other reputable DOT tires are fine.

As you’ve probably guessed, you’ll likely get beat by the liter bikes in a drag race down the straightaway and then catch them in the corners as they throw out the anchor. It doesn’t take any talent to go fast in the straightaway so don’t let that bother you. Stick to the race line, focus on good cornering skills and you’ll have plenty of HP to be “competitive” to where your focus shifts to consistency in passing. Track days are not races but you know what I mean.
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I’d take the initiative to change the water pump gears. The plastic can suffer a catastrophic disintegration and the plastic bits will travel through your oil system. Tad inconvenient and very costly to repair.
How big of a job is this to do... I have seen the coolant leak thread and they look horrific! I have a 2016 model and not sure if its been done, is it a recall or not? Are there tell tale signs to look out for, do they have to be changed periodically as part of a service?

Thanks
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How big of a job is this to do... I have seen the coolant leak thread and they look horrific! I have a 2016 model and not sure if its been done, is it a recall or not? Are there tell tale signs to look out for, do they have to be changed periodically as part of a service?

Thanks

Good question can you post the link to the thread here as well?
Thread here, make sure you're sitting down as its scary reading! 2019 959 Panigale - An Unpleasant Surprise
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How big of a job is this to do... I have seen the coolant leak thread and they look horrific! I have a 2016 model and not sure if its been done, is it a recall or not? Are there tell tale signs to look out for, do they have to be changed periodically as part of a service?

Thanks
I’m not really sure but I’m picking up a 959 Saturday and I guess I’ll find out sooner than later. Regardless I’ll probably just do it next winter after the last track day 🤷‍♂️.
I’m not really sure but I’m picking up a 959 Saturday and I guess I’ll find out sooner than later. Regardless I’ll probably just do it next winter after the last track day 🤷‍♂️.
I wouldn’t wait.

Plastic bits running loose in my engine’s oil sump is an unpleasant thought.
How big of a job is this to do... I have seen the coolant leak thread and they look horrific! I have a 2016 model and not sure if its been done, is it a recall or not? Are there tell tale signs to look out for, do they have to be changed periodically as part of a service?

Thanks
Not a recall.

Changing the gears periodically is not a design intention. The plastic gears are SUPPOSED to last the life of the bike. Unfortunately, when one disintegrates (and that’s an unpredictable event), it gunks up the sump.

The steel gears are the way to go.
I’ve had a dozen or so track days on the Panigale since I replaced the water pump gears with steel ones.

Happy to report no problems at all.

Somebody on here commented that the steel gears would be loud. It’s a dedicated track bike that I ride, umm, only at the track. Loud is a very relative thing at a track and the Panigale poses no greater noise than any other bike.

I’m happy with the 959 Panigale as a track bike. I like the narrower width and the middleweight power. Also, I’m optimistic the location of the exhausts will avoid damage if I tuck the front end and low-side the bike.

Only modifications I plan on making to the bike are, first, the wheels. Marchesini or OZ…not sure yet which ones. Going with aluminum. CF would be nice but I’m not sure I’d be confident turning them over to the local tire monkeys at the various tracks I go to.

After that, tons of spares…clip ons, rear set parts, track fairings. I want to be able to have a disagreement with the bike, drag it back to the paddock, swap parts and get back after it.
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I’ve had a dozen or so track days on the Panigale since I replaced the water pump gears with steel ones.

Happy to report no problems at all.

Somebody on here commented that the steel gears would be loud. It’s a dedicated track bike that I ride, umm, only at the track. Loud is a very relative thing at a track and the Panigale poses no greater noise than any other bike.

I’m happy with the 959 Panigale as a track bike. I like the narrower width and the middleweight power. Also, I’m optimistic the location of the exhausts will avoid damage if I tuck the front end and low-side the bike.

Only modifications I plan on making to the bike are, first, the wheels. Marchesini or OZ…not sure yet which ones. Going with aluminum. CF would be nice but I’m not sure I’d be confident turning them over to the local tire monkeys at the various tracks I go to.

After that, tons of spares…clip ons, rear set parts, track fairings. I want to be able to have a disagreement with the bike, drag it back to the paddock, swap parts and get back after it.
I Ended up with a 1299 for several grand less than any of the 899/959s I could find. Spent 3mos trying to make an 848, 899, or 959 happen. 1299 it is. Crazy I was able to get the 1299 for less than guys were selling 848s for, and nobody would negotiate. And the guys hovering around $10k would literally disappear.
Holy crap….I bet she’s a handful on the track!
Holy crap….I bet she’s a handful on the track!
It’s actually super easy. It’s very narrow, very smooth throttle, brakes are fantastic. It’s a confidence inspiring bike, I also found it exceptionally comfortable. I had it on the medium engine setting and only pinned it a few times with some open track 2nd, 3rd, and in these couple spots I’d crack open the throttle to pass if I was faster in the corners and blow out of the turn passing on the exit and walk away with the corned exit speed, then I pinned it a couple times on Sunday. I went from cracking it open and thinking wow this thing is stupid fast. When I pinned it, it jumped to hyperspace quick shift into 3rd wide open, my vision freakin blurred the first time. It’s a rocket and I’ll never ride it to its ability. It’s dang near pointless. BUT it’s mine, and it’s fun. I just really try to respect the guys out there faster in the turns and have a good time.
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