[MileyCyrus]

F#*king 4 days old... 4 days. Went to fire it up this morning does the initial fire for a second and then shuts off. Exact same issue as everybody else. Except this time it won't come back on. Tried for a good 10 mins and nothing. It had this issue 2 days ago but after a couple of tries it came to life. NOT HAPPY.

 

[Dic]

It's typical for a production piece to experience some units going bad. I'm sorry your 959 is having a little difficulty but don't fret. I'm sure the guys at Ducati are working on a remedy and you'll be back up and going in no time!

 

[tko]

When you say it wont come on, you mean no electric at all, or just wont start?

 

[MileyCyrus]

Sorry the rage got me. Get lights, hear injectors everything normal up to hitting the kill switch. First go hitting the kill switch it fires up for a second stutters and then shuts off and then won't turn over after that point.

 

[levigarrett]

Dealership have any ideas?

 

[tko]

Sorry the rage got me. Get lights, hear injectors everything normal up to hitting the kill switch. First go hitting the kill switch it fires up for a second stutters and then shuts off and then won't turn over after that point.

Don't worry about that. I'd be pissed too.Thanks for the clarification. Wish I had some advice for you.

 

[Dingo]

...First go hitting the kill switch it fires up for a second stutters and then shuts off and then won't turn over after that point.

- "First go hitting the kill switch it fires up for a second stutters and then shuts off
you mean the START button...?

- "then won't turn over after that point"
you mean pressing the START button does not spin the starter motor?

 

[Kruz]

This is a bummer, I'd be camped out on my dealers door step until they can get this fixed, good luck with a resolution.

 

[corsa]

This is a bummer, I'd be camped out on my dealers door step until they can get this fixed, good luck with a resolution.

It's too bad that bike makers and even car makers don't make it easier to report issues and make it easier to report the issues that come up.

 

[levigarrett]

This sux. There's no doubt. Unfortunately, it's something that happens. Visit any auto forum and you'll see guys with brand new cars that break down virtually immediately. They're isolated incidents but more common than most of us probably think. I'm confident the OP will get this sorted reasonably shortly and I'd like to hear a detailed explanation as to why. I suspect most of these issues are related to Euro4. We'll see.

 

[MileyCyrus]

HA and then this morning it fired up first time to issue what so ever

 

[Kruz]

HA and then this morning it fired up first time to issue what so ever

Sounds like it may be related to the security system, that's the problem with adding so much complexity to a machine, unless you have your design and production techniques dead on you can get these types of failures.


So far no issues with mine other than the surging bit but I'd be lying if I told you all of these starting issues aren't starting to make me a bit nervous.

 

[Dic]

HA and then this morning it fired up first time to issue what so ever

Intermittent issues are still issues. Next time you're experiencing the problem I would take a quick video and narrate the conditions and the problem for your local Ducati service. That way they can go based off what happened instead of a description that usually falls short when trying to diagnose the problem.

For example I used to work in the electronic repair industry, videos of the intermittent problem helped a lot more in addition to the conditions to reproduce it and then diagnose. Sometimes TVs would power cycle randomly and we'd have to hold on to it for weeks without seeing a problem, and we can't do anything major if we don't experience the problem ourselves.

 

[MileyCyrus]

Yea I actually did film it, but missed the initial failure on startup.

And just to clarify for those asking I'm obviously struggling to explain exactly what happened.

Electronics are functioning perfectly fine. They come on when the key is turned just like they should. I slide the kill switch up hit the starter button. Starter motor (I think that's what it's called) functions as normal. Engine starts in its normally first start blurby fashion. After a second the engine dies. Electronics all stay on however.

Turn the bike off using the key and then back on again. Hit the start button, starter moter just keeps trying to turn over engine and won't. Almost sounds like when a battery is just to flat to get a bike running.

But like I said this morning it started first go whit no issue what so ever.

As a side note temp between the 2 mornings was maybe a degree or two.

 

[Renzo520]

When it cuts off and wont restart, have you tried opening the gas cap?

 

[bucfan444]

I have a thread running as well documenting my issues with my 959 which have lasted 15 days at dealership (and counting), two tow truck pick ups and two separate visits to dealer for same problem.
I see a few threads running around with various issues. Mine, for example (which is undiagnosed), this problem on this thread, other hard start problems and problems with front wheel rubbing paint on lower fairing edge in front of radiator. There are probably other issues I'm missing as well.
At some point I will try to consolidate all our issues into one thread that anyone can quickly refer to in case they come up against a similar circumstance.
More disturbing to me is the fact that quite a few of us has some deficiency which does not appear to be isolated and needs to be addressed at some point by Ducati.
This forum allows us to "pool" together our experiences in an attempt to get out problems rectified. Why we have to pool together our problems on a brand new motorcycle is beyond me. We should be enjoying our investments not plotting how we are going to address our issues on virtually brand new motorcycles.

 

[MileyCyrus]

When it cuts off and wont restart, have you tried opening the gas cap?

No I didn't. But I'll give it if it happens again and report back

 

[MileyCyrus]

So once again it won't start. Left in a car park for 10 hours during work come back and it does the exact same thing. Tried opening the fuel cap, leaving all electrics running for a few minutes (as someone else suggested on another forum). Blipping throttle during startup - all nothing. This is unbelievable. 10 hours ago it started with no issues what so ever now it's not even close to firing.

 

[MileyCyrus]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c98mX-Cek1Y

Exactly what is happening but if mine doesn't turn over the first time then it's staying where it is for a while.

 

[Kruz]

Intermittent issues are still issues. Next time you're experiencing the problem I would take a quick video and narrate the conditions and the problem for your local Ducati service. That way they can go based off what happened instead of a description that usually falls short when trying to diagnose the problem.

For example I used to work in the electronic repair industry, videos of the intermittent problem helped a lot more in addition to the conditions to reproduce it and then diagnose. Sometimes TVs would power cycle randomly and we'd have to hold on to it for weeks without seeing a problem, and we can't do anything major if we don't experience the problem ourselves.

Agreed, I work in the aviation industry as a technical suppport specialist for a major engine manufacturer. As our newer generation of engines have become ever more dependent upon electronics, these problems surface from time to time and they are the most frustrating for us to solve as they are often not repeatable.

In an overwhelming number of cases it can be traced back to a connectivity issue somewhere in the CAN bus.