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I know these have been talked a good amount but I didn't want to trash someone else's post. This is just my personal opinions, others are certainly entitled to their own. (and sorry this is so long, verbosity comes naturally to me!)
For $120, I would have expected a significantly better product. Here is a detailed break down of my view of the failures:
No directions with product- there are instructions on their website (states for the 1199/899 only but they sell this product for the 959) but they are terrible- actually referenced pictures in steps that don't even show what the step is about. See here- step 5, picture 4: https://www.newragecycles.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/1199_899 Front Signals.pdf Not the end of the world, its pretty straight forward.
The lights are not bright and are yellow. Others have stated how bright these are but I guess I disagree. I installed one and left the factory on the other side and checked them out, the factory is white light and MUCH MUCH brighter. Why is the material cloudy and not clear? Appears to be an acrylic that has been machined, why is it machined? Is it made oversized? Why? And then why not polish it back out?
Making this worse is the fact that the light all faces what is basically the wrong direction. The light actually wraps two sides of the plate but both sides face inward which frankly doesn't make much sense to me. I actually had to run back inside and check some pics online to ensure I had them correct as it just seemed backwards.
Also, the screws are TINY, for what reason? I was using the correct tools (The required tools are not listed anywhere, nor in this case is the size of the screw stated anywhere- turns out its a 1/16" as I recall, luckily the motoductchman video on youtube identified this) and I still managed to strip one of these tiny screw heads as it takes a good amount of torque to get it through the nylon lock nut. This begs another issue that I found on their other product as well... the entire bike has metric fasteners, why do you provide SAE fasteners with your products??? Do you realize how unhelpful this is? Very good likelihood for someone to stripe things trying to use the wrong tools.
The black screws included with the brushed aluminum plate look ridiculous, why would use provide black screws??? There are also like 1/4" longer than they need to be so they provide little foam, screw end covers, which are themselves, much too long.... seems incredibly dumb... why not just get a more appropriate screw. I have to imagine these things would eventually vibrate off anyways... why not just thread the actual block off and install screw and washer from underneath??? You know, like the factory did!
And finally for the last of the extremely poorly designed items, the wiring is WAY too long... wires come out of the "light block" and then is spliced to more wire that is then terminated with the appropriate connector. The wiring is at least 3 times, probably 4 times longer than factory. Again, why? Its incredibly unnecessary and even worse, there is no where to put it all... the very small groove in the bracket under the fairing will not hold all the wire, splice, and connector nicely. How hard would it to have been to just have the correct length of wire come out of the block and then terminate it with the correct connector?
I am going to email or call NRC tomorrow but am hoping to return them and just get some block off plates for less than half as much. I bought them at my dealership and unfortunately threw out the original packaging as I was leaving the dealership on the bike with just a small backpack and had several other items to carry... otherwise I would just take it back to the dealership.
I'm interested to hear if there are others out there that don't think this was a great product?? I think all of these items are really very straight forward and only take a small bit of common sense to address properly. The current product quality is more like a $20 product.
Frankly, I will write a review of the rear fender eliminator kit from them when I have some more time but likewise, don't have particularly kind things to say about it.
For $120, I would have expected a significantly better product. Here is a detailed break down of my view of the failures:
No directions with product- there are instructions on their website (states for the 1199/899 only but they sell this product for the 959) but they are terrible- actually referenced pictures in steps that don't even show what the step is about. See here- step 5, picture 4: https://www.newragecycles.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/1199_899 Front Signals.pdf Not the end of the world, its pretty straight forward.
The lights are not bright and are yellow. Others have stated how bright these are but I guess I disagree. I installed one and left the factory on the other side and checked them out, the factory is white light and MUCH MUCH brighter. Why is the material cloudy and not clear? Appears to be an acrylic that has been machined, why is it machined? Is it made oversized? Why? And then why not polish it back out?
Making this worse is the fact that the light all faces what is basically the wrong direction. The light actually wraps two sides of the plate but both sides face inward which frankly doesn't make much sense to me. I actually had to run back inside and check some pics online to ensure I had them correct as it just seemed backwards.
Also, the screws are TINY, for what reason? I was using the correct tools (The required tools are not listed anywhere, nor in this case is the size of the screw stated anywhere- turns out its a 1/16" as I recall, luckily the motoductchman video on youtube identified this) and I still managed to strip one of these tiny screw heads as it takes a good amount of torque to get it through the nylon lock nut. This begs another issue that I found on their other product as well... the entire bike has metric fasteners, why do you provide SAE fasteners with your products??? Do you realize how unhelpful this is? Very good likelihood for someone to stripe things trying to use the wrong tools.
The black screws included with the brushed aluminum plate look ridiculous, why would use provide black screws??? There are also like 1/4" longer than they need to be so they provide little foam, screw end covers, which are themselves, much too long.... seems incredibly dumb... why not just get a more appropriate screw. I have to imagine these things would eventually vibrate off anyways... why not just thread the actual block off and install screw and washer from underneath??? You know, like the factory did!
And finally for the last of the extremely poorly designed items, the wiring is WAY too long... wires come out of the "light block" and then is spliced to more wire that is then terminated with the appropriate connector. The wiring is at least 3 times, probably 4 times longer than factory. Again, why? Its incredibly unnecessary and even worse, there is no where to put it all... the very small groove in the bracket under the fairing will not hold all the wire, splice, and connector nicely. How hard would it to have been to just have the correct length of wire come out of the block and then terminate it with the correct connector?
I am going to email or call NRC tomorrow but am hoping to return them and just get some block off plates for less than half as much. I bought them at my dealership and unfortunately threw out the original packaging as I was leaving the dealership on the bike with just a small backpack and had several other items to carry... otherwise I would just take it back to the dealership.
I'm interested to hear if there are others out there that don't think this was a great product?? I think all of these items are really very straight forward and only take a small bit of common sense to address properly. The current product quality is more like a $20 product.
Frankly, I will write a review of the rear fender eliminator kit from them when I have some more time but likewise, don't have particularly kind things to say about it.
