Oil
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Went to the dealer to pick up 4 liters of the recommended Shell 15W50 Synthetic at my Ducati dealer today for the 600 mile service and they brought out 5W40 BMW oil , said that's what they use when they service the Panigales. They said they can't get the Shell 15W50 over here. Hmmmm...I declined and may pick up some Rotella T6 5W40 Synthetic, same stuff I run in all my bikes. That's option 1 but I still have to figure out how to switch off the Service Engine light. Option 2 is to let them do the first service, $382.
Love Motul 300V, too.
But my dealer only has Shell and told me that I must use it for warranty :surprise:
Also, do you guys have any suggestion oil for very hot weather in Vietnam?
That's not correct, you can use any oil you want as long as it's jaso-ma certified. My dealer actually recommends 300v if the bike sees track time.
I've heard a rumor that anything other than an OEM filter can result in warranty issues though. That might be what they were thinking of, lost in translation or something.
15w50 is a good choice for very hot climate. That's what I use here in Texas.
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I run Silkolene Pro 4 15W-50
Seacoast Sport Cycle where I purchased my 1299FE recommended this over the Shell.
This spring I ran Shell Advanced Ultra
Seacoast Sport Cycle where I purchased my 1299FE recommended this over the Shell.
This spring I ran Shell Advanced Ultra
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Mine was recommended the same synthetic oil Shell Ultra Advance fully synthetic oil 15W50 wasn’t sure what the bottle looks like because I keep seeing on YouTube ducati branded shell advance synthetic oil while there’s a grey bottle that’s shell brand of what I was trying to look for... I wanted to do the oil change myself while they just do the checkup...
Have they shown you what the bottle look that they recommended?
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What does the shell advance ultra bottle look like you got a picture?
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How often do you guys change the oil? I normally do it every 2,000 miles or after a track day, whichever comes first. I did the 600 mile and am close to 4k miles and it's looking pretty black in the sight glass window but the manual says next one is 7500.
I know that cars now too, have much longer recommended oil change intervals... But should I really go that long?
I would do it today but the new filters won't be here till Saturday... I ordered some from Amazon over a week ago with 2 day Prime shipping but they lost it so I went to Revzilla yesterday, they will be here Saturday...
I guess I would always just flush the oil in between the 7500 mile services, and let the filter be done by Mark at The Ducshop when he does those services?
Thoughts?
I know that cars now too, have much longer recommended oil change intervals... But should I really go that long?
I would do it today but the new filters won't be here till Saturday... I ordered some from Amazon over a week ago with 2 day Prime shipping but they lost it so I went to Revzilla yesterday, they will be here Saturday...
I guess I would always just flush the oil in between the 7500 mile services, and let the filter be done by Mark at The Ducshop when he does those services?
Thoughts?
I follow the manual. I figure that they are recommending changes with adequate caution since the company has the liability of warranty claims.
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I tend to agree, but the oil looks really black. I have always changed oil more frequently than the manual dictates, I figure it can't hurt... If the manufacturer is fine with the filter going 7500 miles between replacements, I guess I should be as well.
And if the oil being so dark offends my OCD, I can always just flush that with fresh oil and save the filter swap for when the manual calls for it. Yeah, there will be a little of the dirty oil in there, but a flush of oil only will get 90-95% of the old oil out... and if I do nothing, I am leaving both the oil and filter in there till 7500 miles... so this is faster, cheaper, and a lot better than what the manual calls for.
I will pick up some Shell Advance later on today. I can drain out the dirty oil and refill the bike in like 5 min, without having to remove any plastic or anything... And then let the Ducshop do it all when I drop it off for the 7500 mile service...
And if the oil being so dark offends my OCD, I can always just flush that with fresh oil and save the filter swap for when the manual calls for it. Yeah, there will be a little of the dirty oil in there, but a flush of oil only will get 90-95% of the old oil out... and if I do nothing, I am leaving both the oil and filter in there till 7500 miles... so this is faster, cheaper, and a lot better than what the manual calls for.
I will pick up some Shell Advance later on today. I can drain out the dirty oil and refill the bike in like 5 min, without having to remove any plastic or anything... And then let the Ducshop do it all when I drop it off for the 7500 mile service...
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Of course the local store only had 1 quart of Shell Advance... So I just grabbed a jug of Shell Rotella T6... Now that it has the JASO-MA/MA2 cert on the bottle, I am not worried about it. I know, Rotella is only slightly less controversial than the Kavanaugh nomination, but I have used it in around 15 bikes over the years and never had issues...
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Question, I didn't notice a crush washer... Wasn't on the drain plug, and it wasn't in the oil pan. I felt up in there and it almost felt like it was stuck to the engine case. It hasn't leaked at all but I will keep an eye on it. Worst case I have to drain the oil, pry the old one off and install a new one... I guess I can drill the plug to safety wired while I in there next time.
I typically use a crush washer a few times before replacing it. Never really had any leaks.
I typically use a crush washer a few times before replacing it. Never really had any leaks.
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Oil looking dark is tough to judge because it gets dark within a couple of hundred miles. With synthetic oils, you don't get sludge like you would conventional oils, so that's hard to judge as well. I'm considering sending a sample of oil to get tested to see what exactly its life is on my race bike and my 959.
I want to get some concrete evidence on whether or not 3000 miles or so is too early or not (or ~1000 miles-ish or 3 race weekends is on the race bike).
I want to get some concrete evidence on whether or not 3000 miles or so is too early or not (or ~1000 miles-ish or 3 race weekends is on the race bike).
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The way I see it, you can't change it too much... I used to be really OCD and do it every 1500 miles, but now I am more like every 3k miles. Being that the manual calls for 7500, I will cut that in half and do the oil changes myself, and save the 7500,15000, etc for when the shop does the scheduled maintenance.
Next time I will drill out the drain bolt for safety wire(wasn't thinking, didn't remember till after I filled it with new oil), and I will pry off the old crush washer next time and replace it.
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