Performance air filters
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K&N is always good, been using their automotive line in a lot of my cars.
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I'm thinking of getting K & N. Are these just "drop-in" filters? Do I need to get it tuned afterwards? I asked the dealer and he said that the bike will probably run lean due to the extra air coming in. He recommended not putting one in unless I get a full exhaust system as well. I mentioned that with my cars they have been drop in as the ECU just adjusts for the extra air coming in, but he said the tolerances for the ECU on the bikes are very small. Any thoughts?
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I've been in contact with bellissimoto I can do a filter
( I'll end up doing MWR High Efficiency ) without tuner
( since Ripid Bike haven't got word if the tuner work)
But will have to get one eventually , I'm planning at the end of the month to do the Termignoni Evolution Carbon froward exit exhaust and MWR HE filter ...
( I'll end up doing MWR High Efficiency ) without tuner
( since Ripid Bike haven't got word if the tuner work)
But will have to get one eventually , I'm planning at the end of the month to do the Termignoni Evolution Carbon froward exit exhaust and MWR HE filter ...
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K&n filter fitted today. The old one looked pretty bad after just 7000 miles!
Vacuumed out all the debris inside the air box too. Full of leaves and flies etc. Never had a filter as dirty as this!
Vacuumed out all the debris inside the air box too. Full of leaves and flies etc. Never had a filter as dirty as this!
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The general consensus on Ducati forums is that a new stock air-filter is very efficient and the flow gained versus the filtering loss may not be worth it for street applications. An air filter isn’t performance equipment - it’s protective equipment.
A street bike air filter, needs to function for thousands of miles in a variety of dusty conditions before cleaning or replacement. Consequently, it needs to hold a lot more dirt while still maintaining its filtering efficiency. An air filter that is selected for use on a race bike most often is not a good choice for use on a street bike. Performance filters flows more air but dirt as well and require frequent cleaning before accumulated debris diminish the airflow sufficiently to reduce engine performance. Last but not least, our bikes run lean off the showroom floor. Unless you re-balance the AFR, why would you want it leaner?
Here's a relevant analysis report about air-filters that I have come across through a courteous Ducatisti:
Duramax Air filter Test
A street bike air filter, needs to function for thousands of miles in a variety of dusty conditions before cleaning or replacement. Consequently, it needs to hold a lot more dirt while still maintaining its filtering efficiency. An air filter that is selected for use on a race bike most often is not a good choice for use on a street bike. Performance filters flows more air but dirt as well and require frequent cleaning before accumulated debris diminish the airflow sufficiently to reduce engine performance. Last but not least, our bikes run lean off the showroom floor. Unless you re-balance the AFR, why would you want it leaner?
Here's a relevant analysis report about air-filters that I have come across through a courteous Ducatisti:
Duramax Air filter Test
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I have fitted the road version not the race version. The filtering capabilities should be as good as a paper filter.
As the panigale filter takes such a hard time it makes sense to fit a reusable filter IMO. I’ve never seen a filter get so dirty in any machine I’ve owned in such a short space of time except for enduro bikes.
The panigale airbox stinks of fuel and oil vapour. Not ideal for a paper filter. Mine felt damp when I removed it.
I have a Rapidbike so any changes to AFR can be adapted to.
As the panigale filter takes such a hard time it makes sense to fit a reusable filter IMO. I’ve never seen a filter get so dirty in any machine I’ve owned in such a short space of time except for enduro bikes.
The panigale airbox stinks of fuel and oil vapour. Not ideal for a paper filter. Mine felt damp when I removed it.
I have a Rapidbike so any changes to AFR can be adapted to.
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The best air filter you can get for the Panigale is hands down Sprint Filter. There is a reason why many MotoGP, WSBK, BSB, ASBK etc teams are running these filters. Furthermore they are starting to pop up on OEM applications for some of the high performance superbikes like the Superleggera, Panigale R etc.. These bikes all come with Sprint Filter's installed on them.
There are many theories out there, but at the end of the day, but the fact of the matter is, the more an air filter can flow, the more power you will make.
What sets Sprint Filter air filters apart from other brands is the air flow their filters can achieve while being able to filter out the dust particles which you do not want to get into your engine. This is all possible because of the innovative polyester material they use and how the filters are constructed. Also this is due to the fact that Sprint Filter is actually a filtration company whose main focus is making filtration products, which is why they have made the most advance air filters we can put on our bikes. Their filters out flow any filter on the competition while being able to filter out almost as much dust as the OEM paper air filter. (I'll post the 3rd party University testing that was done to back this claim.)
Remember sponges are used to clean your dishes and your bike, are not the ideal material to use for air filtration.
You can check out the Sprint Filter air filters for the Panigale here > https://www.motomillion.com/collections/ducati-panigale-899-1199-959-1299/air-filters
The P08 material is safe to run on the street and it will outflow any other performance filter out there. P16 is a race only filter which we advise not to use on the street, since it will not filter out some of the fine dust particles which you can be exposed to during regular road use.
There are many theories out there, but at the end of the day, but the fact of the matter is, the more an air filter can flow, the more power you will make.
What sets Sprint Filter air filters apart from other brands is the air flow their filters can achieve while being able to filter out the dust particles which you do not want to get into your engine. This is all possible because of the innovative polyester material they use and how the filters are constructed. Also this is due to the fact that Sprint Filter is actually a filtration company whose main focus is making filtration products, which is why they have made the most advance air filters we can put on our bikes. Their filters out flow any filter on the competition while being able to filter out almost as much dust as the OEM paper air filter. (I'll post the 3rd party University testing that was done to back this claim.)
Remember sponges are used to clean your dishes and your bike, are not the ideal material to use for air filtration.
You can check out the Sprint Filter air filters for the Panigale here > https://www.motomillion.com/collections/ducati-panigale-899-1199-959-1299/air-filters
The P08 material is safe to run on the street and it will outflow any other performance filter out there. P16 is a race only filter which we advise not to use on the street, since it will not filter out some of the fine dust particles which you can be exposed to during regular road use.
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would you have any comparative research between the Sprint and the OEM with an emphasis on dirt filtration?
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Like exhaust systems, filter manufacturers pray on telling their prospective clients what they want to hear and believe. IE. More power without repercussions. Unfortunately, in this real world, there's no free lunch. You must choose what's more important for you. All after-market claim more flow. More flow the better because that's what you want. But there's a price to pay and I'm not referring to the purchase price. Flow invariably comes at the expense of filtration efficiency. So far, this is carved in stone. If someone can find additional filtration comparisons between Sprint and the OEM that scientifically and objectively proves otherwise, then it would be great. Some after-market filters are better than others and I have no doubt that the Sprint brand is right up there among the best. However, you must balance the issues and choose to remain with the OEM or go with an after-market in terms of prioritizing what you really need.
The issues:
This article compare Sprint vs OEM but focuses predominantly on flow.
MO Tested: Sprint Air Filter
This article compares flow vs filtration for various after-market filters.
Duramax Air filter Test
More of the same
K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
This following is a more detailed but genetic article about some of the trade-offs previously mentioned.
Performance Car Air Filter Test | Fast Car
Happy reading.
The issues:
- Reusable vs Disposable
- Better flow
- Better filtration
- High dirt retention capacity vs Low dirt retention capacity:
- Cleaning Frequency
- Cost of Replacement
- Cost of potentially requiring modification to the AFR.
This article compare Sprint vs OEM but focuses predominantly on flow.
MO Tested: Sprint Air Filter
This article compares flow vs filtration for various after-market filters.
Duramax Air filter Test
More of the same
K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
This following is a more detailed but genetic article about some of the trade-offs previously mentioned.
Performance Car Air Filter Test | Fast Car
Happy reading.
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The Sprint Filter P08 PM127S is installed on all Panigale R, Superleggera and Anniversario models from the factory by Ducati.
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Also a good video to watch, with some real life evidence, rather than what is written on paper.
This is the brand new filter from Sprint Filter, the P08 F1-85
The version for the Panigale is available here > https://www.motomillion.com/product...ducati-899-959-1199-1299-panigale-pm127s-f185
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Also a good video to watch, with some real life evidence, rather than what is written on paper.
This is the brand new filter from Sprint Filter, the P08 F1-85
The version for the Panigale is available here > https://www.motomillion.com/product...ducati-899-959-1199-1299-panigale-pm127s-f185
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I've posted here to keep all the Air filter topics together.![]()
The latest and the greatest air filter for your Panigale by the mad Italian filtration scientist of Sprint Filter! For those who aren't familiar with Sprint Filter, they are an Italian company who has been in business of making air filters since the 1950's. The air filters found in the Panigale R, Superleggera and Anniverssario models are made by Sprint Filter as well.
This new filter was just introduced at the EICMA 2017 motorcycle show in Milan which is a revolutionary air filter. It has the filtering capabilities of a P08 while being able to outflow the P16 which was the race filter.
We've also had the opportunity to test the P08 F1-85 filter for a couple of months before its release on one of our road bikes which sees occasional track duty. After a couple hundred miles, we did not have a single spec of dust in the airbox, and the filter had trapped out the fine sand particles which is quite common here in South Florida.
Sprint Filter's testing has showed the filter to flow more than their P16 race filters and better yet, filter out almost as much as their P08 street filter. The bench test results (which I will post later on here) verified this, and also the street miles we put on with this filter also verified the fact that it is up to the task of keeping the dust and debris that you'd be encountering on the street. Furthermore Brock's performance just released a video of their dyno testing of this filter on their GSXR 1000 which shows the power gains.
The video can be seen here:
https://youtu.be/aaPHhVtETNE?t=5m29s
Sprint Filter Panigale P08 F1-85 Air Filter
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- P08 F1-85 Air filter is perfect for street and track use.
The filters are dry filters, meaning no oils or chemicals are needed to be sprayed on the filters. Cleaning is super easy, just blow it with compressed air, and if you take proper care, it'll be the last filter you've ever bought for your bike.
Used by many top level race teams around the world and now available through your high-end motorcycle parts retailer www.motomillion.com
Will it fit my 959 Panigale?
- Fits all Panigale models, including 899, 959, 1199, 1299 and all of the submodels.
How much?
- P08 F1-85 Filters are $239.95 with fast an free shipping within USA!
- Affordable shipping options for international customers.
How to order?
- Order directly from the link below:
- Sprint Filter PM127S-F185 For Ducati Panigale : https://www.motomillion.com/collect...ducati-899-959-1199-1299-panigale-pm127s-f185
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to PM me.
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What you wrote is very interesting and looking forward to viewing the test results.
Moreover, thank you for highlighting the Brock Performance video series as it covers many if not all of the AFR fueling questions asked on this forum. Brock is by far the best presenter on the topic that I have seen. I'm on my second viewing of all 6 episodes and still picking-up valuable information. I would encourage everyone interested in fueling / controllers / mapping and AFR to view them.
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