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Not sure if anyone has had their bike long enough to wear out a rear tire, but I was just curious as to what brand / model people are considering as replacement rubber? I agree with the philosophy of tires being the last place you want to cut costs, so the OEM Pirellis are most likely my first choice as a replacement when the time comes. Obviously a lot depends on the type / level of riding done on the bike, traction control, slipper settings, etc.. I would go through a rear (Pilot Road 4) every 3 months or 2000 miles with my 2001 S4. Of course that is flattening out the center of the tire not the edges! I think a lot of the wear came from engine braking so I would expect the 959 with all the electronic aids to yield a lower wear rate. Just something to ponder.
 

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Having a 180/60 rear tire is cancer, The moment you put a different sized tire like 180/55 or 190/55, the electronics start freaking out because they are programmed with 180/60 rear in mind.
 

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I'll probably keep the OEM Pirellis, the rubber is soft and I'm guessing maybe 2000 miles for a rear and it's done but the TC is calibrated for this tire as mentioned.
 

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I'll probably keep the OEM Pirellis, the rubber is soft and I'm guessing maybe 2000 miles for a rear and it's done but the TC is calibrated for this tire as mentioned.
What is unfortunate, is the new Diablo Rosso IIIs are out, but they haven't made one for 180/60.

I don't like the idea of using the Corsas or the Rosso IIs in wet weather.
 

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They do make that size. Look below

That is good news considering this email I got from them

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We offer the 180/60-17 size in 4 different tires. It comes in the Diablo Supercorsa SP and race compound Supercorsa. Then we have it in the Rosso Corsa and the Rosso II, but we are not sure if it will be launched in the Rosso III pattern in the near future. We hope this helps, thanks for the e-mail.

Pirelli Moto Consumer Affairs
800 747-3554

http://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/motorcycle/all-tyres/sheet/diablo-rosso-III#/size-range

  • 200/55 ZR 17 M/C (78W) TL
  • 190/50 ZR 17 M/C (73W) TL
  • 190/55 ZR 17 M/C (75W) TL
  • 180/55 ZR 17 M/C (73W) TL
  • 160/60 ZR 17 M/C (69W) TL
  • 150/60 ZR 17 M/C 66W TL



On the pirelli website, the size is not listed. Where did you get that info graph?
 

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That is good news considering this email I got from them

Hello

We offer the 180/60-17 size in 4 different tires. It comes in the Diablo Supercorsa SP and race compound Supercorsa. Then we have it in the Rosso Corsa and the Rosso II, but we are not sure if it will be launched in the Rosso III pattern in the near future. We hope this helps, thanks for the e-mail.

Pirelli Moto Consumer Affairs
800 747-3554

DIABLO ROSSO III , Motorcycle Tyres | Pirelli

  • 200/55 ZR 17 M/C (78W) TL
  • 190/50 ZR 17 M/C (73W) TL
  • 190/55 ZR 17 M/C (75W) TL
  • 180/55 ZR 17 M/C (73W) TL
  • 160/60 ZR 17 M/C (69W) TL
  • 150/60 ZR 17 M/C 66W TL



On the pirelli website, the size is not listed. Where did you get that info graph?

Here

Pirelli
 

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I got this email this morning, not the news I wanted to hear.

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We think the PR is a little bit optimistic because the 180/60-17 Rosso III is not in the production plan for 2016. We feel it is related to Ducati picking the Rosso III in that size as OE for a new bike. As it is very rare for an OE to go backwards and test a new tire on a bike introduced a year or two before. We hope this helps.

Pirelli Moto Consumer Affairs
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I got this email this morning, not the news I wanted to hear.

Hello

We think the PR is a little bit optimistic because the 180/60-17 Rosso III is not in the production plan for 2016. We feel it is related to Ducati picking the Rosso III in that size as OE for a new bike. As it is very rare for an OE to go backwards and test a new tire on a bike introduced a year or two before. We hope this helps.

Pirelli Moto Consumer Affairs
800 747-3554
Wow, that sucks. Tbh, i haven't done much research on the tires at all. Do you recommend going with the rossa II or the corsa?
 

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Wow, that sucks. Tbh, i haven't done much research on the tires at all. Do you recommend going with the rossa II or the corsa?
TBH, I'd go for the Metzler M7RRs or Pilot Power 3s, if you want a good wet tire with great dry traction.

of course that would probably mean switching to 190/55 which means the electronics will freak out. I most likely will switch to M7RRs once the rainy season comes back and disable some of the electronics. I don't trust the current pirellis at all.

Rosso IIs wet traction isn't that great and Corsas even less so.

My advice for everyone is to petition or email pirelli and also Ducati on making 180/60s for Diablo Rosso IIIs. **** I would even ask the 899 guys to get in on this considering they use they same rear.
 

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Having a 180/60 rear tire is cancer, The moment you put a different sized tire like 180/55 or 190/55, the electronics start freaking out because they are programmed with 180/60 rear in mind.
I guess I wasn't aware the 959 came with a 60. Thanks for the heads up!
 

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I wouldn't think the OEM Pirellis would have a whole lot of grip in the wet given the tread design. I personally only ride in the wet by mistake! lol! So I just dial it back and take it slow.
 
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For a while Dunlop made a SportSmart2 in the 180/60 size. Im unsure if they still do. It is annoying to not have much choice when it comes to rear tyres but hey, these are superbikes we ride, so we may as well run super tyres xD :laugh:
 

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I had Rosso II's on my 1098, loved them, went through 2 sets but I don't ride super hard. Rosso III's would be a logical step, especially if you commute a lot.
From what I understand and have been told Rosso II and Corsa's use the same dual compounds on the rear, just the Rosso II uses a larger are of the harder compound in the middle. It stands to good reason when you watch the wear patterns. Obviously water dispersion is better on the Rosso II and probably III.
 

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I wouldn't think there would be a whole lot of issues going from a 60 to a 55 rear. Worst case scenario you change the rear ride height? Guess I'll have to test that one. I've run several different brand slicks on my 1199 and have not noticed any issues with the rider aids. Dunlop's are a bit taller than Pirelli's so I did adjust the ride height. Both manufacturers have sizing charts available that list the height differences between the different brand / model tires.
 

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I am curious about this as well, my Monster runs Pilot Powers and they are great for commuting. I want to be able to commute in both without just eating tires.
 

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I am curious about this as well, my Monster runs Pilot Powers and they are great for commuting. I want to be able to commute in both without just eating tires.
I tried a ton of different tires over the past few years on my Monster S4 for the same reason. I found that the Michelin Pilot Road 4 gave me the best wear rates and still had plenty of edge grip for aggressive riding. Also, a very good tire in the wet.
 

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I tried a ton of different tires over the past few years on my Monster S4 for the same reason. I found that the Michelin Pilot Road 4 gave me the best wear rates and still had plenty of edge grip for aggressive riding. Also, a very good tire in the wet.
About how many miles did you get out of the PR4s?
 

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About how many miles did you get out of the PR4s?
Around 2000 miles before the center was too worn for my liking. Some may chose to ride these longer, but my standard ride is around 400 miles so I like to have confidence in the tires) But like I mentioned, I got less from other brands. Plus, it depends a lot on the type of riding you do. I ride aggressively on the street and use a lot of engine braking due to not having a slipper on that bike.
 

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