[bucfan444]

I DO NOT have any affiliation with Shift Tech but have no problems saying these work. They are touted as engine subframe covers which add a nice carbon fiber look but more importantly reduce engine heat coming from right side. I ordered them and didn't have high hopes but I will be damned if they don't work. I live in Florida...93-95 degrees, 100+ heat index. As soon as I put these on and took a long ride I noticed the heat which would normally scorch my right inner thigh was greatly reduced to the point I stopped wearing a compression leg wrap I would wear under my Kevlar riding jeans. Is the heat complete gone? No of course not. But I can without a doubt feel a noticeable difference.
I was first made aware of these by a YT poster who swore his 1299 was made rideable with these engine covers.
I went on Shift Tech's site and now see a 8-10 week back log. Maybe word is getting out these things work. Shift-tech-carbon.com $349.00 plus S&H
I will admit I am very pleased with them. Great work guys.

 

[Dingo]

A friend just gave me a set that he thought was for the 959, but they were for the 1299... Did yours come with heat tape on the inside?

 

[bucfan444]

A friend just gave me a set that he thought was for the 959, but they were for the 1299... Did yours come with heat tape on the inside?

No. Actually it didn't.

 

[mike in o.c.]

Do these just install over the existing subframe covers?

 

[Dingo]

Do these just install over the existing subframe covers?

No, they replace them. You have to prop up the gas tank and remove the rear side cowls to get it done easily.

 

[Sina]

My minor gripe with this heat shield (which is not only a Panigale solution, but made in different shapes & sizes for a number of sport bikes) is that it's designed to keep you cool, but prevents heat from emanating effectively in the surrounds of the rear cylinder head, so you could end up with melting and deforming the plastics in proximity. The higher temperature maintained inside actually makes that area get even hotter and doesn't allow for the same level of cool down through the high pressure diversion capabilities of the stock thermoplastic covers. I think Ducati had this in mind, but also will aim first-and-foremost to find workarounds to the heat, in the successor to the Panigale series, since it is officially the main non-positive factor derived by riders and reviewers.

I was first made aware of these by a YT poster who swore his 1299 was made rideable with these engine covers.

Yeah, that'd be taylor202 — he's got some cheeky pizza / fast food delivery on a 1299 episode of videos.

No, they replace them. You have to prop up the gas tank and remove the rear side cowls to get it done easily.

Is this a 959 procedure? Because on the 1299, it comes with a heat tape that you apply on the inside of the subframe covers and remove the 3M backing from the Shift-Tech CF set to install.

 

[MotoMillion]

The best would be to get a set of those and put the DEI gold tape on the inside, which will reflect heat away even more.

 

[VroomVroom]

My minor gripe with this heat shield (which is not only a Panigale solution, but made in different shapes & sizes for a number of sport bikes) is that it's designed to keep you cool, but prevents heat from emanating effectively in the surrounds of the rear cylinder head, so you could end up with melting and deforming the plastics in proximity. The higher temperature maintained inside actually makes that area get even hotter and doesn't allow for the same level of cool down through the high pressure diversion capabilities of the stock thermoplastic covers. I think Ducati had this in mind, but also will aim first-and-foremost to find workarounds to the heat, in the successor to the Panigale series, since it is officially the main non-positive factor derived by riders and reviewers.

That's concerning. May as well just bear with the heat at that point or risk overheating the plastics.

 

[foxriderry]

But isn't heat dissipation part of the reason CF is more desirable? To me that means that it allows heat to escape and disperse easier helping it maintain a cooler temperature, not necessarily trapping it inside. Of course I'm far from any kind of expert tho.

My minor gripe with this heat shield (which is not only a Panigale solution, but made in different shapes & sizes for a number of sport bikes) is that it's designed to keep you cool, but prevents heat from emanating effectively in the surrounds of the rear cylinder head, so you could end up with melting and deforming the plastics in proximity. The higher temperature maintained inside actually makes that area get even hotter and doesn't allow for the same level of cool down through the high pressure diversion capabilities of the stock thermoplastic covers. I think Ducati had this in mind, but also will aim first-and-foremost to find workarounds to the heat, in the successor to the Panigale series, since it is officially the main non-positive factor derived by riders and reviewers.



Yeah, that'd be taylor202 — he's got some cheeky pizza / fast food delivery on a 1299 episode of videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_CyU7_ixQ8



Is this a 959 procedure? Because on the 1299, it comes with a heat tape that you apply on the inside of the subframe covers and remove the 3M backing from the Shift-Tech CF set to install.

 

[DJ Shrug]

But isn't heat dissipation part of the reason CF is more desirable? To me that means that it allows heat to escape and disperse easier helping it maintain a cooler temperature, not necessarily trapping it inside. Of course I'm far from any kind of expert tho.

Putting the carbon fiber subframe covers effectively reduces the amount of heat transferring from the subframe to your legs/environment (hence keeping your legs cooler). This removes one area for cooling of the heat from the rear cylinder, causing general temps to increase as result (heat generation ~constant, heat transfer down, therefore temp up). What @Sina is saying is that by reducing the amount of heat energy escaping due to the covers, the now hotter air has to escape somewhere else. Places subsequently targeted: the plastics in proximity.

The air isn't necessarily trapped, it just has less flow movement/more time to increase in temperature, then gets directed away from your legs, towards other plastics and possibly melting them.



CF has a lower thermal conductivity (better insulator) when compared to metals and higher thermal conductivity (worse insulator) when compared to plastics. Generally, heat dissipation isn't a strong point, hence why CF is used often as heat shields.

Heat conduction in W/m-K (~25C temp)

• Polycarbonate (~0.19–0.22)
• Carbon fiber (~5-7)
• Steel (~12-45)
• Aluminium (~200-250)

 

[Narcos]

Can we get an update on this?
Has anyone had any issues using the subframe covers?

 

[blackbolt22]

I DO NOT have any affiliation with Shift Tech but have no problems saying these work. They are touted as engine subframe covers which add a nice carbon fiber look but more importantly reduce engine heat coming from right side. I ordered them and didn't have high hopes but I will be damned if they don't work. I live in Florida...93-95 degrees, 100+ heat index. As soon as I put these on and took a long ride I noticed the heat which would normally scorch my right inner thigh was greatly reduced to the point I stopped wearing a compression leg wrap I would wear under my Kevlar riding jeans. Is the heat complete gone? No of course not. But I can without a doubt feel a noticeable difference.
I was first made aware of these by a YT poster who swore his 1299 was made rideable with these engine covers.
I went on Shift Tech's site and now see a 8-10 week back log. Maybe word is getting out these things work. Shift-tech-carbon.com $349.00 plus S&H
I will admit I am very pleased with them. Great work guys.

I just ordered some. I prefer the gloss. Is this matte or gloss? I'm miserable with mine. I hope this plus a few other things help or this thing is gone. I had red whelps on my legs after a 45 min ride at night last weeik.

 

[Dingo]

that's matte cf

 

[movinlow]

Any updates on this issue? Thanks.

 

[DooBs]

Interested in update as well.

I understand it can get hot, but the amount of heat on right inner thigh is no joke.
Literally left a burn on my leg after a 30 mile ride.
Ducati should sell heat wrapped underwear with this bike.
Went for a short ride today and didn't notice the heat.

Very very interested in the "fix".
Please update!

 

[Narcos]

I've spoken to a couple Ducati techs and both told me the same thing.
There's nothing that can be done to cool off the bike.
Several people have tried changing coolants, heat wrapping the exhaust and CF subframe covers but nothing works...
I believe the only solution is too wear protection on your thighs.

 

[XCLR8TN]

My minor gripe with this heat shield (which is not only a Panigale solution, but made in different shapes & sizes for a number of sport bikes) is that it's designed to keep you cool, but prevents heat from emanating effectively in the surrounds of the rear cylinder head, so you could end up with melting and deforming the plastics in proximity. The higher temperature maintained inside actually makes that area get even hotter and doesn't allow for the same level of cool down through the high pressure diversion capabilities of the stock thermoplastic covers. I think Ducati had this in mind, but also will aim first-and-foremost to find workarounds to the heat, in the successor to the Panigale series, since it is officially the main non-positive factor derived by riders and reviewers.

I've had my OEM heat shields/covers backed with reflective tape AND some thin material that is used to prevent heat transfer (I am mind blanking on the name right now, aerogel maybe?), since 2014 and 50k. No adverse affects. Nothing has melted.

Heat shielding the bike - Ducati 899 Panigale Forum

I've spoken to a couple Ducati techs and both told me the same thing.
There's nothing that can be done to cool off the bike.
Several people have tried changing coolants, heat wrapping the exhaust and CF subframe covers but nothing works...
I believe the only solution is too wear protection on your thighs.

Wrapping the exhaust loop did nothing for me. CF heat shield didn't do much either.

I just had my exhaust ceramic coated, but I don't think it will make a big difference, the heat is coming from the head and radiating into the subframe, and into the side shields, and into your leg.... the biggest difference I saw was from the Ducati Performance comfort seat, because it raises you 1" away from all the heat!

 

[idzr0]

I just ordered some. I prefer the gloss. Is this matte or gloss? I'm miserable with mine. I hope this plus a few other things help or this thing is gone. I had red whelps on my legs after a 45 min ride at night last weeik.

Any update? I just rode my 959 home for the first time, 60 miles and my leg had burn marks on it. I am willing to try anything.

 

[DJ Shrug]

Any update? I just rode my 959 home for the first time, 60 miles and my leg had burn marks on it. I am willing to try anything.

Your options are:

• Subframe Covers
• Taller comfort seat
• Heat shielding tape
• Wearing gear

This topic has been covered exhaustively. Most likely, there's something that you're doing that is causing your problem:

• What pants are you wearing while riding?
• Do you death grip your legs onto the bike 110% of the time?
• Are you mostly riding in stop and go conditions?

 

[idzr0]

Your options are:

• Subframe Covers
• Taller comfort seat
• Heat shielding tape
• Wearing gear

This topic has been covered exhaustively. Most likely, there's something that you're doing that is causing your problem:

• What pants are you wearing while riding? Jeans
• Do you death grip your legs onto the bike 110% of the time? Probably. It's how I ride, tight through the legs and core. Will try to fix that.
• Are you mostly riding in stop and go conditions? No, this was all freeway. It was also 99 degrees

Rode home today about 40 miles freeway. I am wearing an ACE bandage to block some of the heat, cause I just can't take it. Wasn't as bad cause i'm trying not to death grip it.