First off, I weigh 145 pounds with gear. The maximum front sag I can get is 36mm w/ the preload all the way counterclockwise... Thus, I run the preload all the way counterclockwise because 36mm sounds like the minimum I'd want to be at for street sag (rider + gear). The sag and the spring rate aren't the issue (although I'd probably benefit in getting a bit more sag or compliance by throwing a .85 spring in one fork). The issue is that the forks are valved harsher than what I'm used to. That's why I have to run the rebound and compression all the out/open (counterclockwise) to make the bike even rideable for me. This isn't a track bike, it's a canyon carver. There are lots of bumps and quick turns where I ride in my county. It's easy for me to dial in a suspension w/ roads like this. However, on these forks, there is so much damping (even w/ the clickers all the way counterclockwise), that my bike pretty much plows over bumps rather than absorbs them. Who knows, maybe this particular bike is over sprung for me at .90kg? But on my 749 w/ even heavier spring rates (9nm / .917kg), I run the damping clickers right in the middle of their ranges (11.5c/6.5r) and the bikes feels amazing over uneven surfaces. Maybe it's just me? Maybe I'm used to really worn-in forks? My point it, if the damping on these forks isn't going to loosen up, I'm going to have to do something. Some people on this thread believe the damping on these forks will loosen up over time as they 'break-in'. If that's true, how much time? I can't be waiting around forever for the damping to soften up. Thus, I was thinking either my suspension guy can rework the shim stack for high-speed compression for my type of riding on these stock cartridges, or drop the oil level or oil weight, see the effect of dropping a .85 spring in one fork, or perhaps just go the NIX30 route as I'm sure that will yield a much more plush and compliant suspension than trying to mess and invest considerable money into the stock forks. If I go the NIX30 route, if my suspension guy thinks the shim stack 'out of the box' will work well for my riding style, great, if not, I'll have him tune the shim stack for my needs. And for the record, I'd probably be able to get my zip tie even lower on the fork however there is so much damping that it's inhibiting my springs from moving through it's full range. Does anyone know of any replacement drop in springs for these forks that come in .85kg or 8.5nm? Seems the lowest rate I can find is what's already in there. Open to constructive feedback. To summarize: 1) The sag is set correctly, 36mm front and 30mm rear. 2) Even with the rebound and compression all the way counterclockwise it still feels quite harsh. Thanks, Chris